Quotes from the Video Presentation of the “Let’s Talk Science” Rebuttal
Here is the 3hr video on this material: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yB5lY9WaK4&t=2865s
The following are small quotations therefrom to give you an idea of the concepts covered, and to have a bit of fun.
Introduction:
This is probably the most important video I’ve ever made, and the research behind it has been many months in the making. It is a detailed rebuttal to a popular book circulating in the Church promoting evolution, called “Let’s Talk About Science and Religion.” Sadly this book represents a dangerous combination of bad science and false doctrine. Though the authors attempt to help people retain their faith by claiming that Evolution and Christianity can coexist, this is both misleading and unsustainable. When we are acquainted with correct science and true doctrine we do not need to rely on the theories of men to be intellectually and spiritually nourished. You may wonder why this book published in 2023 has become so popular in the Church, but rest assured it is not an official Church publication, and be aware that members are allowed to promote views like this which they think are helpful even when they are ultimately not correct. Please learn about this issue by watching this video and help me spread this very important information. Let’s do our part to strengthen our fellow saints and press forward to our Zion destination which can only be achieved by embracing the truth and rejecting dangerous counterfeits. Thank you, Nate Richardson
Quotes:
“When are we going to say the emperor has no clothes guys? Evolution doesn’t work no matter how old the Earth is!’
Concerning the age of the earth, “they’ve always got to give themselves that safety that fall out to say oh it’s actually even older than that because when we show them the statistics…”
“People are like, why do you care about this stuff? Because it matters man, it matters!”
“We can’t be so quick to accept the worldly ways that contradict our scriptures, that’s the whole point”
“We need to take the scriptures as our primary thing. When something doesn’t match the scriptures we’ve got to throw up the red flag and say hey I’m not okay with this.”
“Please, in our efforts to save testimonies, let us embrace truth”
“The whole theme of the book is that we need to adopt the evolution worldview and adjust our religious thinking to accommodate evolution”
“I’m confident in the growing evidence is that supports the scriptures, truth will prevail”
“We just want to set the record straight. We want to be done with the nonsense and we want to go on to Zion and to truth and to not live beneath our privileges anymore.”
“There was a BYU professor who said there will never be any scientific evidence for the flood. Why would any Christian say that? Why would any latter Day Saints say that? It’s terrifying its terrifying.”
“If it doesn’t fit their preordained theory, they sweep it under the rug”
“Somehow learning evolution is going to give us bulletproof testimonies?”
“Why aren’t we being more skeptical of the science that doesn’t match the religion?”
“How are you going to throw out a century of consistent teachings from the brethren against evolution?”
“Claiming that you have all these variables cranked down for your radiometric dating theory to work doesn’t work.”
To be clear, in our correspondence with President Oaks recently, he indicated that they are aware of evolution being taught at BYU merely to make students aware of the theories of men. (But in reality, they are advocating the theory as truth.)
“What do you mean it has not been revealed, have we not read our scriptures lately?”
“We aren’t saying throw out the scientific method, by all means, we are saying we want more honest and legitimate science. Let’s try to do something more than just an academic journal that has a vertical wall against anything that doesn’t promote evolution. That’s the kind of stuff that we want to get away from.”
“First presidency statements, oh boy this part, I gotta do it, I gotta do it.”
“We can’t have the grossly oversimplified Gospel of just go along with everything, okay we can’t do it, you can’t shift all of your responsibility on to other people, you’ve got to have some moral conscience, you’ve got to look into these things, and you’ve got to get in on the fight man, Saints are fighters, they are lovers, and lovers are fighters, as in they don’t just let it slide, they don’t just let their children get eaten by wolves, we’ve got to stand up and fight for these things. That’s love right? Charity is that you actually do something. We’re going to have this discussion, we’re going to say we’re not okay with this, and it’s okay, it’s okay to disagree.”
“They decided oh yeah we’ll just throw some human feet on this and human hands and white eyes.”
“The spiritual informs the temporal. You cannot separate these two things.”
“Why are they never willing to get into those truths that we have in the scriptures, why are they never willing to get into the spiritual creation? That’s what boggles my mind. In this book they throw out a few sporadic references to God as the Creator… They don’t get into the spiritual things about creation at all.” They claim we have much to learn about science and religion which is true but they ignore so much of what has been revealed.
“We’re not just going to symbolize it away…If you want to Christianize evolution you have to take the creation fall and atonement, those three pillars of our religion, k, you have to take those three pillars of our faith and wash them away. You have to take those rocks and trade them out for sand.”
“Do you think the power of God needs billions of years?”
“Joseph Smith came out and said that people and animals didn’t originate on Earth, they came from elsewhere”
“Okay if you don’t have a PhD and you’re not looking at this with the desire to see evolution, what is the plain and precious message of this verse?”
“Here’s what they left out in those three little dots…,”
“They talk about how there have been shifting views of church leaders over time (about evolution). That statement alone is misleading…”
“Only the superficial vague version of Christianity can allow for evolution, not the full restoration.”
“Somehow God pulled it off, that’s called faith.”
“All the people know now is evolution so that’s the way they think it has to be.”
“Why do we have multiple creation accounts that have this supposedly wrong order?”
“Please understand that the devil has deceived the whole world” (Rev.12:9)
“At some point guys we can’t just claim to be Christians to be Saints and to believe the Bible and espouse to philosophies that are totally against it.”
“Evolution has taken away the idea of the first man.”
“Don’t think that just because it’s taught at BYU or that it’s on the shelf at Deseret Book that it’s the pure Gospel of Our Lord.”
“Direct lineal offspring, those are genealogical terms… Please reverently pray about what that means.”
“Boy, I don’t know what’s going on, but the Church is true, and there’s going to be some house cleaning”
“We’ve been misled. The Devil has deceived the whole world. We gotta wake up to that. It’s okay, we’ve all been deceived. Let’s admit that we were wrong let’s start over let’s go back to the scriptures. Let’s have a revival. Let’s not be falling with Babylon.”
“Sadly evolution is the poison, not the cure”
“Show me the bat-man!”
“Man is the child of God, k, this doesn’t just mean God made us in a bowl of soup and poured us into a monkey man when he was ready to be an Adam man.”
“They had to stop saying this because it was utter nonsense”
“So who’s your daddy, the sponge or The God?”
Remember 2 Nephi 2:22 says “ALL” things would have remained in the same state after which they were created. So you can’t say death was happening outside of Eden before the fall!
“The Book of Mormon is coming around and saying, look guys I guess y’all forgot about the Bible I guess y’all forgot about plain and precious truths, let’s try again. Okay? let me just try and put it to you real straight. And if you want to wrest it this time after having this plain and precious book then we’re done.”
“we are all praying for you BYU, that you will be cleansed from the many wickednesses that are going on on your face” many great things go on at BYU and it has a great future mission but it must be cleansed.
“we have President Nelson repeatedly saying he doesn’t believe in evolution. Why weren’t those quotes in their book? It was not fair! It was all pro evolution, that’s the problem, it didn’t present both sides”
“it’s kind of top secret that there is any kind of research on creation science, I never heard a lick of it at BYU, and I just so happen to find out, oh, there are epic amounts of research that support the Bible that support our doctrine, why has nobody told me this and of all places why not at BYU? why don’t they offer a creation science class at BYU? Why don’t we get both sides? Why don’t we talk about evidences for the scriptures?”
“President Benson specifically names Charles Darwin as an antichrist. So if this is the backbone of biology (as BYU claims in their course listing), in other words if this is scientific truth right, if this is God himself what he uses, okay why is Charles Darwin the guy who came up with it and antichrist? Oh thank God for the antichrist that gave me evolution! God forbid!”
“People wanna say ‘oh the Bible isn’t a scientific textbook.’ okay but it also isn’t a completely misleading totally utterly false thing, because you have to throw out so much of the Bible reconcile with modern science, with evolution theory. You just gotta start ripping out pages.”
“President Packer gave us a warning that not all of the persecution is going to come from outside the church. I am so sorry but this is true.”
We are not promoting an alternative to science. We are not saying get rid of the scientific method. We are promoting an alternative to evolution. The authors repeatedly equate science with evolution.
“if we reject the doctrines of Christ we are rejecting Christ. That’s how it works… No matter how many times you say the name Jesus, you have to actually believe what he says in order to be a Christian.”
There’s a strangely growing list of things we have no official position on, alright okay let me just say the Church is true, please do not reject the revelations, because Alma says it, Nephi said it, everyone says it, that when we reject the truth we get less and less information.”
Evolution is “an apocalyptic theory of doom!”
“the names of species are on this outer layer (of the evolutionary phylogenetic tree of life). These middle layers notice how they do not have names, why, because they do not exist. They have never been discovered. They are not named, they are theoretical. Evolution theory is very theoretical folks.”
“that’s the top secret about evolution by the way, it’s on its way out they are terrified, as in the scientific community, they are grasping for straws, they are using increasing government censorship, they are terrified, because a big part of the foundation of the great and spacious building is in fact evolution theory. Read ’em and weep, it’s true, this is a huge part of Babylon.”
“I meet evolutionists time after time and they’re really weak on the Adam doctrine. Okay they don’t believe Adam was real they say it doesn’t matter if Adam was real or not. Okay it does matter to me if Adam was real or not because the scriptures say he was. Over and over and over. And if the scriptures aren’t true then I’m wasting my time with religion.”
“Evolution isn’t natural, it doesn’t make sense, it takes a lot of brainwashing to swallow”
To be clear, the “let’s talk science and religion” book is NOT a publication of the Church. No Church insignia in it etc.
“when you find these bones they don’t have any skin color they don’t have any hair so this is all just science fiction, it’s just them doing what fits evolution, we wish they would be a little more clear, you know maybe put a disclaimer buy this display and say we don’t actually know what these people looked like okay I mean let’s have a little more honesty”
“Stop saying the scriptures can’t be used in a scientific way”
Remember Abraham says God created the animals to bring forth after their KIND. There are strict genetic limits!
“She has a couple different theories but they all have to involve evolution, that’s the common theme of all her theories. And so here’s the question, if people were just evolving and then when humans were ready to show up God send the spirit of Adam and put it in one of those things, why, right, um, there’s just really no need for it. It’s just redundant. If God is the creator then why does he have to do this? The God who uses evolution is wasteful, is flawed, and cruel. Evolution is the religion of death because by death was man brought into the world.”
