Tim Ballard Innocent: Interview with Janet Russon – Highlights

Full interview here:

 

Janet worked with  Operation Underground Railroad (OUR) for 10 years. She defends Tim and the organization.

 

The 7000 children rescued statistics from operation underground railroad is not exaggerated. They don’t even count assists.

 

Tim always has been and continues to be enthusiastic about the work of rescuing children. Tim testified to two Congressional committees about human trafficking at the southern border.

 

Tim will talk to anyone, he does not refer people to his attorneys like people do when they are trying to hide something.

 

The church denies that it was a church statement. It is not an official or unofficial statement and they don’t know where it came from. The statement was suspicious it is unprecedented to call someone out like that.

It was a completely false statement not by the church!

 

For the sound of Freedom movie, Tim was not paid, his security wasn’t paid, the people advocating it were not paid. The sound of Freedom movie broke records everywhere. It is a true educational program on what trafficking looks like and what response to trafficking looks like. The movie is based on three true operations woven together into one story, which is not an uncommon method to tell a story via movie; some movies that say based on a true story are 10% accurate, Sound of Freedom is 90% true to the events, very high for a movie. It was only when this wildly successful movie exposing evil came out that the coordinated attacks on Tim began.

 

Several of the women bringing accusations did never go on any missions. They went to the trainings and that is all. Yet they kept asking to go on missions. If the trainings were so horrible, why did they keep asking to go on missions?

 

Some of the women went on multiple operations. If the operations were so horrible why did they keep going back to more?

 

If something was going on that was against their morals they should have left and gotten out, but they didn’t.

 

There’s about 15 women who have gone on these missions. There are six who are bringing accusations. Four of the six actually went on operations.

 

The operations which involved couples rues were for a reason, people involved were trained and knew what they were getting into and signed non-disclosure statements and wanted to go on the operations. Though many involved still support the couples rues as effective methods to save trafficked children, those are now discontinued.

 

It is suspicious that all of these accusations came out together and at the time of the great success of the movie exposing trafficking and just days before Tim was going to announce his run for the Utah Senate.

 

It is unlikely that the accusers found each other on their own.

 

There are holes in the testimonies of the accusers.

 

The woman who accused him of not letting her go to the hospital when she was injured during training, it has been verified that Tim was not even present, despite her claim that Tim was present.

 

There was a claim that Tim’s son was at a strip club, not true.

 

The accusers make it sound like these things have been going on for years. The reality is that of the whole operation time they had relatively short time with Tim, as in 6 months.

 

The accusations of violent assaults did not happen.

 

Sometimes people make up stories based on other events from their lives, and that’s how they make it sound convincing.

 

On the trips it’s always a group of people, it’s never just Tim and a woman as the accusers make it seem. Often the groups are many people, at least 5 people, often more. Tim isn’t just sneaking off with other women.

 

No one is forced to stay on the trips. Once she jokingly said she wanted to go home. Tim was willing to make arrangements for her to go and repeatedly asked if she was sure she didn’t want to go when she told him she was just joking.

 

He is not controlling he is not manipulative he is not a dictator he does not let his standing go to his head. He is enthusiastic about his work and is thinking about many things at a time and is a workaholic and a good way. He doesn’t even sleep very much due to his work.

 

Why would a person whose life mission is to rescue children be interested in hurting women?

 

Going on the missions people have to get in character and it’s hard; then the mission is over and they have to get back into reality, and that also is hard.

 

The rues are to deceive and catch criminals. There are many different methods.

 

Some children can only be found if you go into certain areas as a couple.

 

A police officer who is busting a drug dealer sometimes has to do drugs to not blow his cover.

 

The couples rues helps act in scenes where the child product is presented and the purchaser is expected to act on the child, the spouse actor can play the part of pulling the other spouse back and saying that will come later.

 

Undercover cops have to come up with unconventional methods to catch the bad guys.

 

The couples rues method is effective. The phone conversations are acting, they are not real. You have to be believable for the operation to work.

The undercover agent must have a burner phone which would demonstrate that he is a human trafficker so those phones would have pornography and pornographic language. The sellers often will take your phone and try to verify that you are a legitimate buyer to make sure you are not a cop.

They have to dirty up the phone and have these mock conversations, and it’s not just him who does it, there are people assigned to do this on his burner phone.

They are the worst of the worst conversations on these burner phones because they have to be believable.

After the operation the burner phone with these fake scripted conversations is wiped clean. But some operators didn’t clean the phone didn’t turn it in like they were supposed to.

 

Celeste is on video talking about how the couples rues is successful but then in her lawsuit she says it is not. There are more women in support of this couples rues tactic then there are against it.

 

Some people erroneously continue to live the role outside of the operation. It’s like going to camp for a week people get emotionally attached. One of the accusers kept one of the burner phones for a long time, apparently they couldn’t detach and wanted this souvenir. Everything was fine after the trainings and the operations they expressed that everything was done professionally everyone who went did some of their own volition.

 

Thom Harrison is their good friend and Thom’s Visions of Glory book that he wrote is a beautiful book.

Anti-Mormons try to group together random associations between known criminals in the church, and good members.

You can believe in whatever you want as long as you don’t hurt people.

Just because someone knew someone at a conference and maybe even spoke highly of them before they committed their crimes doesn’t incriminate the innocent person.

 

Troy Rollins district attorney for Davis county announced that there was an investigation when there was not. He jumped the gun based on a vendetta against OUR. Later he did open an investigation and its scope was very broad. The result of the investigation was that there was no fault with Tim or anyone involved with the OUR!

 

Some material obtained by Rollins was not with permission and he stated assumptions as facts which media outlets quickly related without fact checking. Rollins claimed he had 10,000 pages of reading on the case but that doesn’t exist. All he did was obtain emails without permission. There was an alias name Nephi, and people decided to accuse him of talking to the deceased Book of Mormon prophet Nephi via a psychic, and spending exuberant amounts of money to do so. Not of that was remotely true.

 

Rollins also claimed there was a church statement against Tim.

If there is a statement from the church about anything it will be on their newsreel, and this supposed statement about Tim was not on their newsreel.

They are calling it a statement, there wasn’t a statement, there wasn’t even a request for comment.

 

It is claimed that Tim broke up two marriages. One of these is Celeste she was already getting a divorce before any of this. Another is a couple not even involved in the lawsuit. Relationships are complicated you can’t just blame some third party.

 

Tim is happy in his marriage he would not throw that away for a fleeting pleasure. Some of the women made advances on Tim. Tim would not sacrifice his covenants for another woman he is a good man. Tim would call his wife every night while away on operations.

 

One of the accusers named Celeste spoke about how it can be difficult to detach from the acting roles on these missions. She herself said multiple times she was in love with Tim.

When the operation was over he discontinued contact with these women even though sometimes they attempted to continue contact and wanted the mission acting role to continue in reality.

 

There’s at least five people that go on operations, and no one else on the operations detected any form of abuse like what the lawsuits claim.

Celeste was happy in the office on the missions etc. It does not match her claims that she was violently abused and traffic by Tim.

 

Yes Tim put his team members in dangerous situations, but they all chose to be there, and repeatedly so.

 

Each of the accusers is asking for 5 million, there’s six people, so that’s 30 million dollars.

The cost to rescue a child is about 2,000

Divide the $30 million they are asking for by 2000 that’s 15,000 children that could have been saved with this money that OUR would have to pay, money from donors paid to them to rescue children.

Thus these accusers are punishing the children by demanding this money.

15,000 children is over double the amount that OUR has rescued over 10 years.  The accusers claim to have wanted to rescue children, we will see if they win money if they donate every penny of it to rescue children.

The operation has a grant where they help people adopt children from vulnerable areas and the money these lawsuits would take away from the operation equates to 3,000 adoptions they could fund.

 

You can see in their faces in the trials that these accusers are conflicted.

 

Tim is innocent and there are forces coordinating an attack against him, all of this was not the idea of the accusers.

 

Note- it seems that some hardcore Marxist feminists got a hold of these women and manipulated their worldview into thinking that they were taken advantage of when what occurred was consensual and professional and agreed upon for the sake of the mission.

Based on the evidence I have heard I agree that Tim is innocent!